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Gepostet: 18.08.2010 - 09:31 Uhr  ·  #1
Der Interpret aus New Mexiko machte damals in den 70er Jahren
unter Rockabilly-Fans mit seinen Outlaw Records-Aufnahmen
aus dem Juni 1961 auf sich aufmerksam. Er hat sich nie wirklich
aus der Musik zurückgezogen, allerdings im Leben neben der
Musik sogar promoviert.

Hier ein bisschen Biografie - und Frank schreibt selber:
Frank Thayer is the department head of Journalism and Mass Communications Department. Dr. Thayer is also New Mexico native from Hurley whose three degrees are all from New Mexico State University. He has worked as a reporter-photographer, editor, as an advertising and public relations writer, and a journalism educator, with experience in New Mexico and in Canada. He has written three journalism textbooks and his teaching concentration is in news writing, editing, and in public opinion and propaganda.

In the beginning, there was no rock’n’roll, and one of the few privileges of being a teenager in the 1950s was to be present at its birth. Unsatisfied with country/western music, Frank Sinatra, and syrupy urban orchestral songs, a friend and I often went out to the garage in the shadow of the Hurley, New Mexico copper mill and sat in the front seat of my parents’ Buick at 9:30 p.m. MST, to tune the AM radio to KWKH Shreveport, La., where Gatemouth played black rhythm music and the blues. Imagine a middle class white kid of 15 with acne, listening to Howling Wolf’s lyrics, “I asked her for water, but she gave me gasoline…I asked her for water, but she gave me gasoline. Now that’s the dirtiest water-ohooooo that I ever seen.”Obviously, here was a musician who understood interpersonal relationships, but it was music that I never thought of performing. That all ended that year when Elvis Presley married black rhythm music to hillbilly instrumentation and a miracle occurred. When I heard Elvis sing “That’s All Right”on Sun Records, it was instantaneous conversion in a language that was innate to me, and I knew I had to somehow play and sing that way, praying that if I could only play that rhythm and sing just that one song, I would have achieved a lifetime goal—very profound thinking for someone about to become a junior in high school. Even today, I still play that first Elvis song when I pick up the guitar as a touchstone to the music I love. A history of Sun Records tells the story of the birth label of rock’n’roll

It was only after leaving high school and going off to the Texas A&M cadet corps that I began to develop a rudimentary competence on the acoustic guitar at a time when stage music was an amplified microphone, amplified electric lead, standup acoustic base and drums (if you got ‘em). During three years at Texas A&M, I was vocalist in a band we named The Jesters with several musicians including prominently Gene Hicks and Gary Allen. We played the honkytonks of Bryan, Texas and ranged to play East Texas as far as the Houston area and San Marcos. We learned at that time (and nothing has changed) that inebriated patrons just want to hear “Kansas City.”

Outlaw Records #1

It was on my return to New Mexico when I transferred to New Mexico State University in 1960 that I began writing my own songs while living in army barracks converted to temporary dormitories on the campus. I was majoring in journalism, and I met Dennis Adams, an English major who worked as a DJ at radio station KGRT in Las Cruces. He was also an audiophile with sophisticated (for 1960) microphones and Ampex recorders. He was interested in my recording ambitions, and we eventually recruited musicians to back me for Outlaw Records #1 “Long Grey Highway” and “Evening Shadows.” The campus radio station at that time was piped into the dormitories and was in a small studio in a quiet section of the campus. Dennis set up an unusual recording session at night on the lawn of the radio station, controlling audio levels by placing the musicians a varying number of feet from each other in the glow of the radio station porch light. Recorded on the radio station’s Ampex 600 recorder, we had to use the 7.5 ips speed to record. The accompaniment was provided by Mike Wright and the Lyonals

That first record was released in June 1961 and it sold well in southern New Mexico, reaching #1 on the weekly KRGRT hit parade. With that success, we spent months recording other original songs, sometimes with other college musicians, sometimes just me and my guitar. Dennis still has many never-released original songs on tape, most of them eminently forgettable.

Outlaw Records #2 was an instrumental heavily influenced by Link Wray’s style and with the titles “The Troubled Streets” and “Lonely Before Dawn.” This record was sent out to radio stations nationwide and got a fair amount of play as bumper music leading up to the news, but was a disaster financially, with almost no sales. This is a rare release, and I have only one or two remaining in my big box of vintage 45 rpm records.

From Music to the Real World

When I graduated from NMSU with a journalism degree, Dennis and I set out on a road trip east up U.S. 66 and across the Mississippi for the first time in my life. We were determined to promote Outlaw #2, and it was a memorable trip resulting most importantly in the discovery in a Rochester, N.Y. music store of Stephen Englert who was selling the only guitar I ever really wanted—my Gibson J200N that I have used ever since and keep in my living room.

That trip to Rochester was the end, not the beginning of our musical adventures. Dennis moved back to Rochester to start a family and a computer career with General Motors while I went into journalism, the military, and then to teach journalism in Canada. Fast forward a dozen years or so…

The Hidden Fan Base

Because life tends to be circular by its very nature, I eventually returned from Canada to live again in New Mexico. It was in 1977 that Dennis alerted me to an interest in our first release, a record that had become valuable in the collector’s market. It was his idea that we should release a 45 extended play album “Frank Thayer Back in New Mexico”and response to that album of the original two 1961 releases plus two other original songs from that period showed that there was interest all over the United States as well as across the Atlantic as far east as Finland.

For the next year and a half I began to write new rockabilly songs until the idea congealed that we should produce a definitive album dedicated to that style of music that had almost disappeared after the music field was dominated by the Beatles, The Rolling Stones and the succeeding generations. Such accomplished groups as The Stray Cats did much to keep rockabilly alive, yet there were few who remembered those heady early years. I can still remember vividly all the sensory data of driving to football practice at Cobre High School in Bayard, N.M. and hearing Carl Perkins’ “Blue Suede Shoes” for the first time.

A Return to Outlaw Records

Married to Becky Smith at that time, I will always be indebted to her and her generous family for making it possible to organize a return to Rochester, N.Y. in 1979 on two occasions where we met area musicians and located the definitive sidemen for a rockabilly revival.

George Bedard understood the style created by Scotty Moore, Elvis’s original lead guitarist and, on George’s reputataion alone, Dennis and I had to drive to Ann Arbor, Mich. from Rochester to recruit him to the project. Brian Williams was both a stand-up guy and a stand-up bass player in Rochester, N.Y. who was interested in making music too.When we were able to get all three of us together, only a few numbers were needed to make it clear that only a studio was needed to make an album a realtiy.

Dennis and his friend John Ward had picked out a small studio where it might be possible to emulate the Sun Records studio ambience, and so we went to the Al Wilcox studios with the added value of Jim Symonds who played drums on some of the cuts. It was during this period that then newly formed group played several dates in the Rochester area in clubs and at a popular folk and blues festival with thousands of spectators. It was almost as though we had been playing together for years. I still have a mounted sepia-tone photograph of the rock’n’roll revival of March 1979 in Rochester with more than a dozen friends, family and supporters who enthusiastically assisted in the performances, the recording, and the general excitement that surrounded the project.

Like the intermittent streams of the desert, it was fated that our music would go underground again after the LP album achieved a modest distribution both in the United States, in Canada, and in Europe. Lean on the FF button for two more decades…

Outlaw Records—From Vinyl to CD

It was on that same New Mexico State University campus in Las Cruces in 2006 that a group of rockabilly enthusiasts began to insist that the Frank Thayer LP had to find a new incarnation as a CD. A journalism student in my department was insistent, and he wrote two feature articles about the Frank Thayer rock’n’roll roots. Mike Doiron and Jon Cone, engineers with KRWG-FM radio station on campus were dedicated and eager to perform the digital mastering of the old songs, and the CD Frank Thayer, Outlaw 8001B is the result. A number of other people have contributed time and energy in the production of the CD and in the promotion of it. The Rochester connection is alive and well, with Dennis Adams putting on his manager’s hat to see that people involved in Outlaw Records in 1979/80 would be brought back into the spotlight for this particular encore.
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Re: FRANK THAYER

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Gepostet: 18.08.2010 - 09:50 Uhr  ·  #2
Ich möchte hier natürlich FRANK THAYER nicht unreflektiert stehen lassen,
da er 2007 zu einer "zweiten Eva Hermann von New Mexiko" mit seinen
unreflektierten Aüßerungen über das Leben von Frauen in der Nazizeit
wurde. Im Gegensatz zu Hermann wurde er aber nicht gefeuert, weil
Deutschland und dessen Vergangenheit offensichtlich zu weit weg ist.

Hier aber mal der Ausschnitt aus 2007 - ansonsten soll es um Musik,
nicht aber um die Anschauungen gehen (das hatten wir auch schon ein
paar mal bei anderen Interpreten):

Consider the case of Dr. Frank Thayer.
Thayer is head of the Journalism and Mass Communications Department at New Mexico State University, where he has taught since 1986. According to the university’s web site, “his teaching concentration is in news writing, editing, and in public opinion and propaganda.”

Sometimes Thayer’s interest in propaganda strays beyond the classroom.

During the mid-1990s, Thayer helped edit, and wrote the forewords for, a three-volume work called “Gestapo Chief,” which purports to be based on secret interviews with Gestapo head Heinrich Muller, but which mainstream historians regard as fraudulent. At one point, Muller is quoted as saying that less than half a million Jews died in Nazi captivity, “mostly from typhus.” The book’s author, one Gregory Douglas, adds his own “reflections” supporting Muller’s denial of the Holocaust. In an interview with the Albuquerque Journal last year, Prof. Thayer was asked about Muller’s claim regarding the Jews. He replied: “I don’t know, I don’t think I can address that.”

Thayer, who says he became friends with Douglas because they both collect war memorabilia, wrote about Nazi Germany again in 1998--in the pages of The Barnes Review, a magazine that promotes Holocaust-denial. His article, “The Role and Status of Women in Nazi Germany,” would no doubt interest ex-anchorwoman Eva Herman, and not only because the article included a photograph by Thayer of the Mother’s Cross.

Thayer favorably cited Hitler’s National Socialist Women’s League for having “promoted healthy lifestyles, solid family life, better education for women, social welfare tasks, and patriotic service to the Reich.” Thayer did not explain how the League’s devotion to Nazism made for better education or a healthy lifestyle.

“[T]he Third Reich ignored gender barriers and encouraged capable women to build impressive careers,” Thayer wrote, pointing to filmmaker Leni Riefenstahl as an example. Riefenstahl’s films glorified and promoted Nazism, but that does not seem to trouble Thayer, who asserts that Riefenstahl’s only critics are those who see her films’ message as “a danger to their world view.”

Thayer repeatedly compared Nazi Germany to America--and not unfavorably. He wrote that the “character-forming” impact of Nazi youth movements was reminiscent of “membership in Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts in the United States” ... The U.S. is afflicted by “pandemic domestic violence,” while “a female in the Reich had little to fear except Allied bombs” ... The Nazi “Lebensborn” program of using unmarried women to breed ‘racially pure’ Aryan children with SS officers “offered dignity, income and respect for German women,” while “women in similar distress in America” were “shamed and discarded.”

Prof. Philip Kushner of the University of Texas, whose diligence has brought Thayer’s writings to public attention, has urged the New Mexico State University administration to criticize Thayer’s involvement with Holocaust-deniers. So far, no luck. University spokeswoman Mary Benanti said: “The university, at this point in time, is respecting Dr. Thayer’s First Amendment right to free speech as well as the other individual engaged in the discussion. They both have a right to express their opinions.”

The New Mexico State U. administration is missing the point. Nobody is saying Prof. Thayer should be fired or prevented from publicly praising the Nazis. In Germany, of course, Thayer might end up like Eva Herman. But this is America; his repulsive statements are not illegal. All Prof. Kushner is suggesting is that the administration publicly reject Thayer’s views. Yes, Thayer has freedom of speech; but so does New Mexico State University. Is it too much to ask the NMSU administration to exercise its right?
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Gepostet: 18.08.2010 - 11:31 Uhr  ·  #3
Wenn ich Daten bekomme wo sich im Nachhinein herausstellt, dass sie eigentlich für mich uninteressant sind werden sie nicht einfach in den "Papierkorb" geworfen, sondern ich hebe sie trotzdem auf. Darum kann ich dem Forum auch zeitweise Daten bieten die nach dem 31. Dezember 1962 liegen oder wie im folgenden Falle, Daten über unveröffentliches Material, welches oft Jahrzehnte später erst verwertet wurde.
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12 61....Record No. 1....FRANK THAYER with the Lyonals..Evening Shadows (CP-6923)/Long Grey Highway (CP-6924)
blieb unveröffentlicht....3....FRANK THAYER..The Glory Of Her Love/Yes I'll Be Blue

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Gepostet: 18.08.2010 - 11:51 Uhr  ·  #4
Hallo Dieter,

danke für deine Ergänzungen zu Frank Thayer.

In erster Linie höre ich natürlich die Musik eines Interpreten und die mag ich dann mal mehr und mal weniger.

Manchmal beschäftige ich mich auch gern mit den Texten, wenn eigene Kompositionen gesungen werden und ich das Gefühle habe, da hat einer was zu sagen, was über Herz-Schmerz-Reime hinausgeht.

Und dann interessiert mich schon auch die Vita. Viele Musiker empfinden ihre Musiker als Teil eines kulturellen Diskurses, nehmen in ihren Texten oder in Interviews ganz bewusst zu gesellschaftlichen Themen Stellung oder engagieren sich außerhalb ihrer Musik.

Für mich ist das interessant, denn es prägt das musikalische Schaffen und die die Karriere.

Und deshalb gehören solche Infos unbedingt auch in dieses Forum !!!

Ein Song fängt nicht mit der Rille an und hört auch nicht mit der Rille auf...

Was dann jeder mit solchen Infos macht, ist ja Geschmackssache.
Und das müssen wir dann nicht unbedingt hier diskutieren.
Es mag ja auch hierzulande Leute geben, die Frank Thayers Aussagen zustimmen.
Ich hoffe nur, nicht in diesem Forum.

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