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Re: Lifeguards (SLOAN & BERRY)

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Gepostet: 31.03.2015 - 19:40 Uhr  ·  #13
Zitat geschrieben von Hans
EIN WEITERES SLOAN/BERRY WERK. Titel:

C'mon and swim
Coney Island swim
Swimmin' teacher
Swimmin' party
Swimmin' USA
Slow swim
Simon says swim
The swim
Licorice swim
The swim begins


Soweit ich weiß, ist die LP ohne Sloan/Barri-Beteiligung.

Ein Sloan/Barri-Studioprojekt ist jedoch die folgende unter dem Namen The Life Guards veröffentlichte Single:

Swimtime U.S.A. - Swim Party
Reprise 0277 (1964)
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Re: RINCON SURFSIDE BAND (SLOAN & BARRI)

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Gepostet: 12.11.2016 - 10:19 Uhr  ·  #14
Zitat geschrieben von Hans
Noch eine SLOAN & BARRI LP


Die LP gibt es auch auf RCA Victor mit der Nummer LSD 10 044 Stereo und dem typischen schwarzen RCA Victor label.
Frage: Kennt jemand eine deutsche Pressung der Platte als "Willie & The Wheels"?
bitte um eine email an: nehls-r@versanet.de
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Re: FANTASTIC BAGGYS

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Gepostet: 12.11.2016 - 11:36 Uhr  ·  #15
Ha ha ha.
Ich habe die RSSB Platte auf RCA Victor und nicht bemerkt, dass auf dem Label unter den Titeln
der Name "Willy & The Wheels steht.
Besten Dank für den Hinweis an Christian Bremer.
Christian, die discog Seite konnte ich nicht öffnen. Hinweis Fehler 404

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Re: FANTASTIC BAGGYS

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Gepostet: 12.11.2016 - 11:57 Uhr  ·  #16
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Re: FANTASTIC BAGGYS

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The Fantastic Baggys Meet The Lifeguards

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Gepostet: 17.06.2018 - 10:23 Uhr  ·  #18
Swimmin ´and Skatin´ USA ist der Titel einer CD, die ich mir wohl
aus dem Internet heruntergeladen habe.
Handschriftlich habe ich auf der CDR das Jahr 1964 notiert.
Viele Titel sind hier zu finden, die ansonsten kaum auf Tonträger gebrannt worden sind.
Swimtime USA, Skateboard Craze, Dragon Lady, Swim Party oder Debbie Be True
gab es schon auf der einen oderen Platte oder CD.
Das Cover sieht sehr selbstgemacht aus.
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Re: FANTASTIC BAGGYS

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Gepostet: 17.06.2018 - 12:11 Uhr  ·  #19
Die des öfteren hier genannten Lifeguards bzw. Life Guards aus Los Angeles und aus der Mitte der Sechzigerjahre, sind nicht zu verwechseln mit Haley's Comets, die im Jahre 1959 eine Single unter dem Namen The Lifeguards auf den Markt brachten (links klicken).

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Re: FANTASTIC BAGGYS

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Gepostet: 12.07.2018 - 04:05 Uhr  ·  #20
The Fantastic Baggys were a LA studio project by PF Sloan and Steve Barri. The duo recorded one album for Imperial in 1964 Tell 'em I'm surfin', as well as three singles. Although there were four Fantastic Baggys pictured on the album cover of Tell em' I'm surfin', only Steve and Phil were band members. While the exact reasons for the commercial failure of the Tell 'em I'm Surfin' album are a mystery, there is no doubt that mid 1964 was a little late for a surf album in the US. By then the British Invasion was in full swing and surf music had lost it's magic

The one place where Tell 'em I'm Surfin' did extremely well was in South Africa where it was a big seller. The single peaked at no 2 on the Springbok charts in Aug 1966. Upon the album's success, TEAL Record Company in South Africa was so eager to issue new Baggys albums that, when none were forthcoming, they created their own indigenous version of The Fantastic Baggys. They subsequently signed one of their own bands, The Falling Leaves, to do the job. Their first single release was Papa do ro ron with Anywhere the girls are by the US Baggys on the b side. Papa do ron ron peaked at no 10 on the Springbok charts in November 1966.

Sloan explained in an interview that ..." Dunhill felt that they owned the name P.F. Sloan, and could put out material as they liked under that name, as they did with The Fantastic Baggys. Today it would be unthinkable. They had the brand name of The Fantastic Baggys, and therefore they could sell the name wherever they wanted to, without caring about the material, the production or the work. I had written a letter to the South African Fantastic Baggys asking them if they would like any help with what they were doing, but Dunhill forbade me to have any contact with them at all. Their songs are not bad, but they are obviously different from the stuff we were doing. "

Two additional Fantastic Baggys albums were released in South Africa, consisting mostly of songs by the like-named South African group, with a few leftover cuts by the real Baggys. The second album, Ride The Wild Surf, was released in November 1966. Although five tracks, drawn from singles and out-takes, did feature Sloan and Barri, more than half the set featured the Falling Leaves themselves. By the release of Surfer's Paradise in 1967, the excitement had run it's course. The last album only featured one Sloan/ Barri composition, Only When You're Lonely. Some sources incorrectly claim that it was mistakenly drawn from another studio project, the Grass Roots. I have listened to both recordings and there is no doubt in my mind that the track in question was recorded by the local outfit. The last two Baggys albums were commercial flops as the band failed to keep pace with the public's shifting musical tastes.

The SA Baggys returned to the local singles chart in 1967 with a cover of the Ivy League'sFour and twenty hours which did reasonably well for them. Unlike Sloan, the Ivy League toured South Africa during 1966 and were backed on stage by Pete Clifford's 004. In 1967 Steve Barri told The Thomas Group that I've Got No More To Say was a huge hit in South Africa. Yet another success story for Sloan/ Barri in a country renowned for sun, surf and bikini girls. Incidentally, South Africa's first indigenous surf song Get your Baggys on was recorded in1965 by locals boys, the Bats. Bruce Johnston, before his Beach Boys days, recorded an instrumental surf song Capetown as a tribute to the local surfing community. The popularity of PF Sloan compositions in South Africa were now almost a given and he subsequently impressed another man with strong South African ties, Mickie Most, who requested him to write a song for Herman's Hermits. " I wrote the song downstairs in the dressing room of a sunset strip rock club. Donovan was performing that night and his manager Mickey asked me if I would write a song called A must to avoid for the Hermits movie...problem was he was leaving the following day and needed it right away... I went downstairs and borrowed one of Donovan's guitars and sketched out the song...The next day I told Barri about it and he helped with some of the lyrics...I cut a rough demo on it and gave it to Mickey...."

Various SA musicians copied Sloan and information on cover versions of his songs are well documented on various web sites. However, the only cover not listed anywhere is Billy Andrews' ex- Staccatos solo version of Pardon me (it's my first day alone). Also of importance is the fact that PF Sloan's composition Secret Agent Manfell prey to prison censorship and the song was  banned from the Robben Island prison library while Nelson Mandela and other political prisoners were jailed on the Island. Even the cover design of local folk singer, Nick Taylor's 1965 album Looking Out was copied from PF Sloan's album Songs Of Our Times. PF Sloan was indeed an influential musician in mid sixties South Africa. 

Tyron Khoury, skin basher for many South African groups in the sixties confirmed that The Falling Leaves recorded as The Fantastic Baggys. The final line-up were: Art Fisher [lead ex meteors], George McCauley [bass], Luigi Merola [vocals/ rhythm guitar] and Tyron himself. Martin Sack guitar also played for the outfit during 1966 - '67. The Falling Leaves recorded 3 singles for PYE and 1 for Continental. McCauley is an older brother of the well known Rhema Church personality, Ray McCauley. 
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Re: FANTASTIC BAGGYS

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Gepostet: 12.07.2018 - 04:15 Uhr  ·  #21
Discography: South African Pressings (including 2 from abroad)



 Singles

1966 Tell 'Em I'm Surfin'/ Big Gun Board
Imperial IRS. 87

1966 Pa Pa Do Ron Ron/ Anywhere The Girls Are
Imperial IRS. 94

1967 Four And Twenty Hours/ Ride The Wild Surf
Imperial IRS. 96


 Albums

1966 Tell 'Em I'm Surfin'
IMPERIAL IRL 367 


Tracks 
Side One 
1. Tell 'em I'm surfin' (Sloan/ Barri) 
2. Let's make the most of summer (Sloan/ Barri) 
3. Surfin' craze (Sloan/ Barri) 
4. Big gun board (Sloan/ Barri) 
5. Alone on the beach (Sloan/ Barri) 
6. This little woody (Sloan/ Barri)
Side Two 
1. Surfer's boy dream (Sloan/ Barri) 
2. When surfers rule (Sloan/ Barri) 
3. Wax up your board (Slaon/ Barri) 
4. Summer means fun (Sloan/ Barri) 
5. Surfin's back again (Sloan/ Barri) 
6. Surf impersonations 


1982 Tell 'Em I'm Surfin'
LIBERTY LN 10192 (US Pressing) 


Tracks 
Side One 
1. Tell 'em I'm surfin' (Sloan/ Barri) 
2. Let's make the most of summer (Sloan/ Barri) 
3. Surfin' craze (Sloan/ Barri) 
4. Big gun board (Sloan/ Barri) 
5. This little woody (Sloan/ Barri)
Side Two 
1. Surfer's boy dream (Sloan/ Barri 
2. When surfers rule (Sloan/ Barri
3. Wax up your board (Sloan/ Barri) 
4. Summer means fun (Sloan/ Barri)
5. Surfin's back again (Sloan/ BarriReed/ Brooker) 

Comment: This is an abridged version of the original album.


1980 Summer Means Fun: Californian Surf Music 1962 - 1974
Capitol 1A 046-78 038 (Dutch Pressing) 


Tracks 
Side One 
1. Surfin' USA: The Beach Boys (Chuck Berry)
2. Summer means fun: The Fantastic Baggys (Sloan/Barri)
3. Gonna hustle you: Legendary Masked Surfers (Wilson/Berry) 
4. Surfer's Stomp: The Mar-Kets (Saracena/Daughtry) 
5. Dead man's curve: Jan and Dean (Wilson/Berry)
6. Little Deuce Coupe: The Beach Boys (Wilson/Christian)
7. Surfin' down the swanee river: Honeys (Wilson)
8. Ride the wild surf: Jan and Dean (Berry/Christian/Wilson)
Side Two 
1. Surf city: Jan and Dean (Berry/Wilson)
2. Tell 'em I'm surfin': The Fantastic Baggys (Sloan/Barri)
3. Fun, fun, fun: The Beach Boys (Wilson/Love)
4. Anywhere the girls are: The Fantastic Baggys (Sloan/Barri) 
5. Thinkin' bout you baby: Sharon Marie (Wilson/Love)
6. Pamela Jean: The Survivors (Wilson)
7. Summertime, summertime: Legendary Masked Surfers (Jameson/Fuller)
8. Surfin' safari: The Beach Boys (Wilson/Love)


1966 Ride The Wild Surf
IMPERIAL IRL 374


Tracks 
Side One 
1. Papa do ron ron (Wilson/ Berry/ Christian) 
2. It was I (Paxton) 
3. Let him run wild (Wilson) 
4. Ride the wild surf (Martin/ Magnus) 
5. Surfer girl (Wilson) 
6. You're so good to me (Wilson)
Side Two 
1. Anywhere the girls are (Sloan/ Barri) 
2. How wrong can you be (Sloan/ Barri) 
3. Soft as the dawn (Waller/ Asher) 
4. Breakaway (Martin/ Magnus) 
5. Debbie be true (Sloan/ Barri) 

1967 Surfers Paradise
IMPERIAL IRL 381Hot rod USA (Darin/ Melcher) 



Tracks 
Side One 
1. Four and twenty hours (Ford/ Carter) 
2. Only when you're lonely (Sloan/ Barri) 
3. Anytime, anywhere at all (Clayton) 
4. Hanging ten (Fishach) 
5. Surfer's paradise (Mart) 
6. Yellow belly named Clyde (Fishach)
Side Two 
1. Surfin' bird (Mart) 
2. Catch a wild one (Mart) 
3. Surfers lament (Mart) 
4. Bag yourself a board (Calnat) 
5. Mussel beach (Mart) 
6. Bye bye Linda (Mart) 


1967 Summer Blonde Beach Party 
SUMMER BLONDE: Various Artists


Tracks 
Side One 
1. Papa do ron ron (Wilson): The Fantastic Baggys
2. I'm a believer (Diamond) 
3. You baby (Sloan/ Barri) 
4. Mellow yellow (Leitch) 
5. The great pretender (Buck Ram) 
6. The whole world in his hands (Trad)
Side Two 
1. Summer blonde (Arr Sam Sklair): The Falling Leaves
2. Dancing in the streets (Stevenson/ Gaye) 
3. I can't control myself (Presley): The Falling Leaves 
4. Hooray for Hazel (Roe) 
5. Surfer girl (Wilson): The Fantastic Baggys 
6. Save me (Blaikley) 
7. Secret love (Webster/ Fain)
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Das Rätsel der Mitglieder auf dem LP Foto ist gelöst

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Gepostet: 15.11.2019 - 08:32 Uhr  ·  #22
In seinem Buch "What´s Exactly The Matter About Me" schreibt Phil zu der Besetzung auf Seite 64:
" I called up my high school friends Jerry Cargman and Bobby Myman, believing that we could be
an actual group and might become successful. Jerry was learnig bass and Bob was already
playing drums, Steve (Barri) handled the percussions.... I got to play all the guitar, piano, and organ parts
and arrange the songs and harmonies".
"When the Stones came to L.A. to do their first gigs, Adler met with their first manager, Andrew Oldham,...,
and played The Baggys´ album for him, Mick and Keith.
´That is fantastic`! Mick said, which is how we became The Fantastic Baggys".

Lou Adler hat für die "neue Surf Band" von Imperial/Liberty Records 15.000 Dollars erhalten,
die Bandmitglieder hingegen nur ganz wenig.
Da die erste Single im Juni 1964 erschienen ist und die LP im August des gleichen Jahres,
stellt sich mir die Frage, wann sie Die Stones getroffen haben?
Waren sie bereits vor Juni 1964 in L.A.?? Gab es damals bereits Titel für die LP??

Noch eine Anmerkung zu Herrn Jerry Cargman: Dieser hatte eine Schwester namens Barbara.
Diese wurde die zweite Ehefrau von Beach Boy Dennis Wilson, der ihr zu Ehren im April 1971
im Homestudio von Bruder Brian in Hollywood den Titel "Barbara" aufnahm!
Die Jungs haben bei ihrem konzert in Europa bei Radio Luxemburg den Titel live vorgetragen.
Die Demoversion (2 Keyboards gespielt von Dennis und Daryl Dragon, eine Gitarre) befindet sich auf der 1998iger CD der Beach Boys "Endless Harmony".
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Re: FANTASTIC BAGGYS

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Gepostet: 05.10.2020 - 18:15 Uhr  ·  #23
siehe auch Beitrag #13:

THE LIFE GUARDS
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The Baggys Unmasked EP von 1983

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Gepostet: 06.10.2020 - 13:02 Uhr  ·  #24
Aus Australien kam diese EP mit 6 alten Titeln.
Die Auflage betrug laut Cover 150 Stück.
Ich hatte eine Promo dieser sehr interessanten Zusammenstellung von Liedern erhalten-
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